In this episode, Phil is joined by Dale Cooper in an amazing conversation about Coop’s life journey, his spiritual disciplines, how he remembers so many names (and why), and so much more. The chaplain of Calvin College for 30 years, Coop brings a wealth of wisdom to the conversation as well as some personal stories that are an honor to hear. This was a dream episode for us to get to make and hope it’s a blessing to you in your journey as well.